2018-07-13 The mana value of a double-faced card is the mana value of its front face, even while it's on the battlefield with its back face up
What about all the green cards from Kaladesh block like the once banned Attune with Aether or black for Chthonian Nightmare
If you begin to activate an ability that costs mana before activating any mana abilities you need to pay for it, that ability will be the one to get Tezzeret's discount
Ill also play it because I love the first half of what it does (and in more serious games, I also like the second half)
Your creature can also push excess damage through to the opposing creatures controller if it has trample, making this an amazing tool for commanders like Ghalta, Primal Hunger or Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider
A: Sakazuki MR, Kuzan MR, Borsalino MR, then SEC Ace (OP16-118) and Blackbeard (OP16-119), then the Admiral Super Alt-Arts